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Wii 2 Wonderings


Published Wednesday 9 Mar 2011 11:44am | 11
Tags: Nintendo, Console, wii, wozza, Gamecube, Nintendo 64, Wii 2, Wii II
 

 While some will reserve judgement over the Wii, the system has no doubt been a success. Sales have soared and the motion controls and titles like Wii Sports have become common places at social gatherings of children and adults alike. Nintendo wanted to bring gaming to the mainstream, and largely they have succeeded.

However many longtime fans and hardcore gamers have felt left a little left out in the cold. Most people don’t consider the Wii to be a ‘serious gaming console’ despite the occasional gem such as the fantastic Mario Galaxy games which are amongst the generations best titles.

Seeing the update on the news today about Microsoft developing the  successor for the XBOX 360 came as no surprise but it did get me thinking about the next wave of console hardware. Sure Nintendo have mentioned they are in no rush, but surely they remember what happened when they let the original PlayStation have a head start? For me at least, Nintendo’s new hardware has always been the most exciting and sometimes the most surprising to watch out of the big three. The design of both the GameCube and the naming of the Wii both turned a lot of heads. Were Nintendo serious? Yes, yes they were.

 Could do with a few more polys...

What Nintendo has in store for us next, nobody really knows, but it’s fun to guess. Will the controller be an evolution of the current Wii controller, or something completely out of left field? Going away from motion controls would be admitting they were wrong, but were they? The sales figures, XBOX Kinect and Move would suggest Nintendo knew what they were doing all along. Although it would be hilarious if Nintendo stripped down and went back to a conventional controller while the competition tried to perfect what Nintendo did right this generation.

My biggest hope would be that Nintendo see what they did right and also listen to criticism. As much as you can expect any mega corporation too at least. Processing grunt was possibly the best and worst thing about the Wii. Having less powerful hardware made the system cheap, cheap enough to be a popular Christmas present without taking out a mortgage. But the system seems a lot more aged than the competition. While the PlayStation 3 and 360 are still outputting games that look better and better each year, the Wii is looking old hat with low resolutions and simplistic graphics. Sure Mario Galaxy 2 looked fantastic because of the art style, it would have looked even better with a higher screen resolution and a few more polygons flying around. It’s all about the Game play sure, but an extra slick coat of paint would sure make the over world in the next Zelda even more of a delight to explore.

Prettym could be prettier.

Hopefully the next Nintendo will be a mix of the Nintendo 64’s approach to pure processing power and jointly make it not too far out of reach for the casual gamer.We don’t need Nintendo consoles to be able to surf the internet, play video’s or record TV, but we would like something that doesn’t make or PlayStation playing buddies turn their noses up and laugh at your de-limbed Mii either. The Nintendo 64 was built around the game development of Mario 64, custom made to deliver a game world that had never been possible before, imagine if the next Nintendo was designed in the same way around a new Mario or Zelda universe...

 

But most importantly, will it be known as the Wii II?

 


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Ron
On Wednesday 9 Mar 2011 12:02 PM Posted by Ron NZGamer.com VIP
Great blog! Please make it HD Nintendo, please!
 
 
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Takuyafire
On Wednesday 9 Mar 2011 1:03 PM Posted by Takuyafire NZGamer.com VIP
I agree that its a well written blog but its missing a few points.

First:
"Although it would be hilarious if Nintendo stripped down and went back to a conventional controller while the competition tried to perfect what Nintendo did right this generation"

Nintendo didn't get it right, they simply mainstreamed it. Were it "right" then the Motion plus wouldn't exist.

Second, I doubt there will be another Wii console. Their sales now are being boosted through their hand-helds as there you can play low graphics games and get away with saying its simply "a small hand held" (Yes I know some games look awesome...trying to make a point here).

If Nintendo released another console it would need to be able to match what already exists as the current Gen are only a few years out from their replacements and PC's will continue to make a mockery of the Wii hardware.

About the only thing I can imagine them doing is them attempting to follow in Apples footsteps and releasing a "Wii-lite" or "Wii-S" in which they will crumple all the wii hardware into a tiny wee console and make it pretty so people will continue to buy it.

Otherwise they have to get serious...in which case they may lose a large portion of their casual fan base (which in turn is a massive portion of their gamer-base).

Rant over
 
 
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Mongrel_Rob
On Thursday 10 Mar 2011 1:44 PM Posted by Mongrel_Rob NZGamer.com VIP
Terrific blog as usual Woz.
I can't picture myself ever buying a Nintendo console or handheld ever again. They're all gimmicks and regurgitated nonsense.
 
 
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mattyj1974
On Thursday 10 Mar 2011 5:13 PM Posted by mattyj1974
Nintendo is cool if you are between five and thirteen years or over 60 years of age and wish to use it to keep fit in your old age home.

Otherwise I think you are better off getting a 360 and Kinect. Kinect incidentally is the fastest selling consumer gadget in history.

Forget Playstation 3 and move as it is more of the same Nintendo type slop. Nothing new going on here.

However if Nintendo were to completely come from left field and say bring out a console controlled by using "Jedi mind control" then I would pick up a Nintendo Console. Until that day or Nintendo release something similarly out there; I think I'll leave it to the kids and the geriatrics.
 
 
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Wozza
On Thursday 10 Mar 2011 10:31 PM Posted by Wozza NZGamer.com VIP
Cheers for comments guys.

Takuyafire, I meant they had the concept right, maybe not the implementation just yet...

Good point on making a Wii Liite though, I could see them doing that now you mention it to juice Wii sales that little bit more. Would be kind of cool though, I have to admit, smaller funkier, and dare I say HD? They have made multiple versions of the DS and Sony have done it with all their consoles so it wouldn’t be far fetched.

Mattyj1974, If your willing to look past ‘ZOMG NINTENDO IZ FOR DA KIDZZ’, their consoles are actually a lot of fun, go on, I dare you to admit you have enjoyed Wii Sports at some point. Regardless of the console Mario Galaxy and Metroid 3 are two of the best games I have played. Period.

Unfortunately I don’t have many other examples, as much as I would like to.
 
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Kegz
On Friday 11 Mar 2011 11:33 PM Posted by Kegz NZGamer.com VIP
The only problem I see with the Wii 2 is what are they going to do? The best thing about the Wii (and this is just my opinion) was that it offered something so dramatically new and different and just plain exciting really.
I'm not sure just upgrading the hardware (which is kind of all they really do with new consoles) is really going to cut it but hey, I've been wrong before.
 
 
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BimoBoii
On Saturday 12 Mar 2011 8:39 AM Posted by BimoBoii
yeah wozza is right, but i dont think they should make it Wii 2, when i hear the word Wii, it makes me think of playful for kids low graphics motion gaming console..(in a good way) its just plain boring.. theyve got to BRING IT ON on coz theyre starting to fade in the gaming makret as what wozza said.. they should start again and restart there consoles and not do another copy of wii thaty is ver similar.. make something revolutionary, like what they did when they first released Wii.. something unique and different.. not the old Wii.. they should also start incoporating hardcore games! with real controllers and new Motion gaming technology to beat the MOVE and KINECT!
 
 
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ChatterboxZombie
On Sunday 13 Mar 2011 10:41 AM Posted by ChatterboxZombie NZGamer.com VIP
If you ever watch any of the IGN or GT reviews of games that were one wii and have been made again for 360/xbox, you'll always hear them say about how it's so much better "now that its a 3D experience".

Personally I couldn't give a sh*t about the wii anymore, I abandoned mine after Madworld, and was bummed that simply couldn't find any games that I wanted to play on the damn thing.

But with all this controversy and differences in opinions on the little white box, you can't help but wonder where it'll go from here. For me the No More Heroes series was the crucial wii experience, that made it just that much cooler/interesting.
Soon Paradise will be out though, and Nintendo can't even claim that for themselves. Despite the fact that they never offered support to the series in terms of marketing or anything.
 
 
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guido
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2011 10:55 AM Posted by guido NZGamer.com VIP
Nintendo have always been about innovation followed by iteration. They have often led the way in controller design and then refined what they had in following generations and I'm pretty sure the next Wii controller will be an improvement on the current one. They may take a cue from Sony and take the camera out of the controller and place it on/near the TV, adding colour and increasing resolution at the same time giving them a solution for voice/video chat and a way to implement AR games as well as possibly add Kinect like features. They pretty much nailed the controller design from the get go which is amazing considering they were moving into such new territory. The nunchuck and remote combo works for a wide range of games, they just need to reduce the lag/increase accuracy a tad with increased processing power from a more powerful console that will also output to 720p & push more polys. Apart from that and updating obvious things like the system software I can't see them needing to do a lot else.
 
 
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bahamut_zero
On Sunday 20 Mar 2011 11:14 PM Posted by bahamut_zero NZGamer.com VIP
There are a lot of good games on the Wii but none of them have held my attention for more than half an hour (apart from Umbrella Chronicles and Overkill). Theres only so much of Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart I can take. I certainly can't compare it to the kinds of games you get on the other two consoles which in my opinion are meatier with more of an appeal to play through to the end (as well as replay value). That to me personally, is where the Wii fails. I own all three consoles and the Wii is what I play the least. In fact, its probably been over a year since I last played it..In terms of what the Wii2 can bring, I hope its the ability to play more cross-platform games with a gruntier processor. But as most of us agree, its unlikely that another Wii console will be released anytime soon given the relative success of the current one.
 
 
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mattyj1974
On Thursday 14 Apr 2011 12:04 PM Posted by mattyj1974
How did my previous comment get downgraded to -15?

I am concerned that a legitimately held viewpoint is downgraded by the NZ gamer community. Are the community at NZ Gamer so hoodwinked by Nintendo’s rhetoric that they are unable to tolerate others viewpoint?

I challenge any of you to debate the fact that Nintendo is marketed at children with the exception of some fitness games.

While there are some attempts to bring multi platform games to Nintendo that are designed more for an older demographic; they are not developed primarily for the Nintendo and then ported to the other consoles or PC’s. The reverse is true; they have been ported to the wii. This always means that what the wii receives is no doubt an inferior product in almost every way and an attempt to milk the cash cow rather than provide quality software to a different generation of wii owners.

Thereby it is the first party developed software for the wii that is best and the first party developers make games like Mario which you would have difficulty saying was marketed at adults.

Anyone of a slightly older age group who bought a wii after playing on wii sports found that there was nothing else remotely worth playing on the system. I have read an article that said there were some retirement homes using wii fit to keep fit.

I have nothing against the blog author or a personal vendetta against Nintendo. They accommodate for a niche in the gamer market that just happens to be the 5-13 year olds and the over 60's.

The hardware is old now and they cannot simply release a high def version of the wii with nothing new; because that space has already been filled by Sony’s Move. Nintendo will then be left out in the cold with only another children’s device in their stable, the 3DS. This of course is not a criticism of Nintendo, merely an observation.

Therefore I believe that my argument was balanced and did not deserve to be downgraded by narrow minded, blinkered wii owners.

Please respect others viewpoints. I don’t downgrade your comments if you don’t agree with me, as I rise above the pettiness as someone who is able to see the big picture and provide blunt but astute observations for the great unwashed masses.
 
 
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