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Published Wednesday 27 Apr 2011 2:07pm | 27
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JRPG Reviews

Games that I've recently been playing that have lead me to blog about my views on this are Atelier Rorona, Hyperdimension Neptunia, Trinity Universe, Ar Tonelico Qoga, White Knight Chronicles and what is still my favourite JRPG of this generation, Star Ocean the Last Hope International.  

It's not very often I actually pay any serious attention to a JRPG review.  JRPGs were a large part of the culture of RPG gaming on PS1 and PS2 and although the seemingly bottomless hole of new games this generation has made JRPGs less prevalent, I still find that they're often quite engaging and well worth playing.

Although I understand that most reviewers out there don't seem to be into JRPGs and thus their reviews and sometimes unjustifiable low scores will obviously reflect that, I can't help but notice the lack of objectivity.  Perhaps this is subject to the fact that the reviews I read are often done by Western reviewers who are reviewing an entirely different cultural experience within a game and simply don't understand it.  More often than not this cultural experience isn't really taken into consideration.

 

Characters in very strange and often skimpy costumes, exploding penguins, dialgoue that almost appears to have been mistranslated at first glance.  To those of us who watch anime or read manga regularly or just enjoy and try to understand more specifically Japanese culture the strange characters and extremely odd dialogue are somewhat par for the course.  While often found to be weird or at times perhaps a little disturbing these things are almost expected and thus often not worth shining a spotlight on as if it comes as a great shock;  I can understand the need to point it out as not everyone reading the review will play JRPGs or watch anime etc.  More often than not I find myself laughing at the dialgoue that appears to have missed the square completely and landed somewhere between the circle and the hexagon.

 

 

I'm a purist when it comes to anime so I always watch it subbed instead of dubbed.  The voices nearly always seem incredibly wrong in English.  There's really no other way I feel I can describe it.  It's often the same with JRPGs.  The casting for voice acting is very deliberate to give the characters the perfect fit to the voice - it's a cultural fit.  Far too often this doesn't happen with the english voice actors.  Through no fault of their own, they just can't fit the spirit of the character.  They're often too angry, too whiny, not ridiculous enough to fit the intention.  

Graphics are another sore point for me when it comes to western reviews.  The games are often not intended to be of a high graphical quality.  Graphics are done in a certain style, and although these days that's often 1080p HD graphics, it can still be reminiscent of how things looked in the last generation of consoles.  This again comes down to a cultural/traditional fit more than a lack of ability on the part of the developers.   This point also fits into how graphics orientated gaming seems to have become this generation and how any game that doesn't have graphics up to a certain standard is reviewed lower.  It seems especially true in the case of JRPGs that the graphics are negatively highlighted far too often as a reason for not playing the game at all.

 

I will take a moment to mention here that some JRPGs do have very nice looking graphics.  Star Ocean 4 and FFXIII are the two that stand out the most to me, not that amazing graphics could save FFXIII in any case.

 

These are just a part of the problems I have with most of the reviews I read, admittedly some of the reviews out there are quite contextual with the spirit of the game and genre.  Often though the games seem to be compared with their more western counterparts.  I find those comparisons would be like comparing an MMO to a solo RPG, the intended experience, although the same in terms of enjoyment and satisfaction in the game itself, is extremely different and thus a pointless comparison.

When it comes to what games you enjoy playing it's obviously going to be personal preference, but when writing a review the general expectation should be to put most of personal preference aside and provide an overview of the games features.  Most JRPGs really don't deserve the reviews they get.  Posting a review of a game you don't like in a genre you don't play that dervies from a culture you don't really understand isn't a testament to a good presentation of the game or even a good read, it's just plain pointless...unless of course you're being objective, but why would reviewers want to do that?

 


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Takuyafire
On Wednesday 27 Apr 2011 6:04 PM Posted by Takuyafire NZGamer.com VIP
Let the sh*tstorm commence:
 
 
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leopardsqueezy
On Wednesday 27 Apr 2011 6:51 PM Posted by leopardsqueezy NZGamer.com VIP
With gusto takuya.

Actually, everything you wrote was perfectly reasonable and rational. No, my only point of contention is with that age-old and totally wrong idea about not affecting one's personal opinion upon a review.

If a review is not a "personal preference" or opinion, then what is it? If you don't like mushrooms, then you can't give an "unbiased" critique of a mushroom dish, no matter how hard you try; if you don't like classical music then you can't give an "unbiased" review of the latest classical release. And if a person doesn't like jrpgs, it's not as simple as flicking a switch to put aside their disdain for the genre whilst they write the review.

Maybe you should ask, Why do people who once adored these games no longer like them? Seeing as I'm one of those people, I can say there are in fact myriad and very tangible reasons for that. I might wait see if some other people point these faults out for me, thereby confirming my personal theory.

PS Lymle really was that bad.
 
 
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ChatterboxZombie
On Wednesday 27 Apr 2011 7:05 PM Posted by ChatterboxZombie NZGamer.com VIP
JRPG's are such a backwards genre.
When you get them at their most extreme, you get huge romantic, cinematic stories that sacrifice pretty much all the player immersion just for the sake of the tale, stirpping you of most of the depth and interaction that the game has to offer, Ala FFXIII.

But when you focus on the gameplay, you get horrible, shallow mash fests where you have almost no motivation beyond unchained progression into such dark and dismal depths that theres no reward for the selfish if complacent Western gamer. That's the hugely popular in Japan series Like monster hunter.

Personally, If I wanna play an interactive story then I take that step backwards in tech but forwards in role and play a visual novel or an eroge, but for those that get big names for trying to blend the two, or simply try and bring out the merits of the aging archetype itself, It just feels so tacky, and it just shows how different the Japanese gaming community is to others.

But whatever, It's all a matter of taste in the end I guess.

But then when you
 
 
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Silvon
On Wednesday 27 Apr 2011 7:24 PM Posted by Silvon NZGamer.com VIP
27 April 2011, 06:51 PM Reply to leopardsqueezy
With gusto takuya.

Actually, everything you wrote was perfectly reasonable and rational. No, my only point of contention is with that age-old and totally wrong idea about not affecting one's personal opinion upon a review.

If a review is not a "personal preference" or opinion, then what is it? If you don't like mushrooms, then you can't give an "unbiased" critique of a mushroom dish, no matter how hard you try; if you don't like classical music then you can't give an "unbiased" review of the latest classical release. And if a person doesn't like jrpgs, it's not as simple as flicking a switch to put aside their disdain for the genre whilst they write the review.

Maybe you should ask, Why do people who once adored these games no longer like them? Seeing as I'm one of those people, I can say there are in fact myriad and very tangible reasons for that. I might wait see if some other people point these faults out for me, thereby confirming my personal theory.

PS Lymle really was that bad.
There's no reason that a review can't remain objective itself while the reviewers own preference and personal opinion are placed within.

When I read a review, I want to know more than if the reviewer liked it, I want to know about the features of the game, I want to be able to read what the game itself is about. If I don't come out of a review with a good idea of whether I'd like the game then the review itself wasn't very helpful to me.

As I said in the blog "when writing a review the general expectation should be to put most of personal preference aside..." I in no way believe that there should be no personal preference in the review at all just that it shouldn't be overbearing to the point where the review is about personal opinion and not the game itself.

A lot of people who used to like JRPGs still do. Some no longer like them but that's true of every genre. I do completely understand that there are a lot of very good reasons for why some people no longer do like them.

Nice comment, I enjoyed reading it and it let me know to perhaps be more clear on specific points in future blogs.

Oh and Lymle was pretty bad but a lot more bearable in Japanese. I found Sarah to be worse than Lymle.
 
 
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Munkah
On Wednesday 27 Apr 2011 10:48 PM Posted by Munkah NZGamer.com VIP
Having read a bit of the Gamespot review for Hyperdimension Neptunia I can tell where you're coming from. They just didn't get the art direction at all - a lot of sites didn't. What makes that game enjoyable is the clever dialogue and not-so-subtle references to other titles.
 
 
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Nokise
On Thursday 28 Apr 2011 2:59 AM Posted by Nokise
Very cool blog.

I'm a massive fan of anime and most of the JRPG's from PS2 back down to the Mega Drive are somewhere in my parents attic. In fact I've just had to shelve my Mass Effect 3 playing time because I found a X360 Mega Drive package at the video store that has Shining Force 2 on it!

The culture issue is often glossed over. And you're right, it is a viable issue. I still remember this awesome game called Azure Dreams that I played after FF7 for about a month, till I realised there was no story twist coming. I really was angry and confused, coz that seemed pointless. Then my older cousin (who introduced me to anime) informed me this type of game was the norm. Of course this was back when household internet was very new to NZ (or at least working class houses) and so researching obscure Japanese titles was difficult.

Perhaps part of the problem is what games get ported to the west. In light of what a success Dragon Age 8 was, it seems stupid a whole generation of console passed before the idea to port the one JRPG that has owned FF came up. Then again, so much of the success of JRPG's in the west during the 90's and early 2000's was because of FF7 and the Squaresoft brand (Feel free to argue that point). And also online gaming has changed the focus of many RPG makers.

Still, JRPG's in the west are a pretty old format, so what it could be is people like me (and I am guilty of putting more heart, less brain into reviews) doing a grave disservice by immediately comparing any new product to the great games we played in our youth. Overbearing nostalgia as opposed to cultural ignorance. To clarify: Comparing FF13 to FF12 and PS3 JRPG's makes sense. Comparing it to Chrono Trigger and FF6 would be cruel, because that game would need to speak to people across the ages of 40ish to 10ish as well as cultural boundaries - which is a massive ask.

My flatmate just reminded me this is the "comments" section, not the "write a blog about my blog" section - so I'll leave it there. But, yeah, very cool to see this kind of thought about JRPG's, Anime, and Manga is out there.
 
 
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Nokise
On Thursday 28 Apr 2011 5:33 AM Posted by Nokise
28 April 2011, 02:59 AM Reply to Nokise
Very cool blog.

I'm a massive fan of anime and most of the JRPG's from PS2 back down to the Mega Drive are somewhere in my parents attic. In fact I've just had to shelve my Mass Effect 3 playing time because I found a X360 Mega Drive package at the video store that has Shining Force 2 on it!

The culture issue is often glossed over. And you're right, it is a viable issue. I still remember this awesome game called Azure Dreams that I played after FF7 for about a month, till I realised there was no story twist coming. I really was angry and confused, coz that seemed pointless. Then my older cousin (who introduced me to anime) informed me this type of game was the norm. Of course this was back when household internet was very new to NZ (or at least working class houses) and so researching obscure Japanese titles was difficult.

Perhaps part of the problem is what games get ported to the west. In light of what a success Dragon Age 8 was, it seems stupid a whole generation of console passed before the idea to port the one JRPG that has owned FF came up. Then again, so much of the success of JRPG's in the west during the 90's and early 2000's was because of FF7 and the Squaresoft brand (Feel free to argue that point). And also online gaming has changed the focus of many RPG makers.

Still, JRPG's in the west are a pretty old format, so what it could be is people like me (and I am guilty of putting more heart, less brain into reviews) doing a grave disservice by immediately comparing any new product to the great games we played in our youth. Overbearing nostalgia as opposed to cultural ignorance. To clarify: Comparing FF13 to FF12 and PS3 JRPG's makes sense. Comparing it to Chrono Trigger and FF6 would be cruel, because that game would need to speak to people across the ages of 40ish to 10ish as well as cultural boundaries - which is a massive ask.

My flatmate just reminded me this is the "comments" section, not the "write a blog about my blog" section - so I'll leave it there. But, yeah, very cool to see this kind of thought about JRPG's, Anime, and Manga is out there.
*by Dragon Age 8, I mean Dragon Quest 8.
 
 
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bahamut_zero
On Thursday 28 Apr 2011 12:23 PM Posted by bahamut_zero NZGamer.com VIP
Gah...there goes my idea for my next blog.

First of all, lemme say, Lymle really wasnt that bad. She totally grew on me while ppl like Vanille from FF13 made me want to decapitate someone.

I too feel that people who do not like JRPGs or who do not know the first thing about them should NOT be writing reviews. They bring up the most mundane points as being negatives without actually realising the culture and history of JRPGs in general. They have their own unique flavour and as such do not appeal to everyone's tastes.

ChatterboxZombie: I think FF13 is the most far away from a traditional JRPG you can get. Overdone cinematics are usually a SquareEnix thing, hardly something that JRPGs themselves are known for. While FF had its roots in the JRPG genre, they've strayed quite far from that, in my opinion, and I'll probably get slammed for that.

All in all, i totally enjoyed reading this blog and am looking forward to more. 5 stars dood!
 
 
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Nokise
On Thursday 28 Apr 2011 3:30 PM Posted by Nokise
28 April 2011, 12:23 PM Reply to bahamut_zero
Gah...there goes my idea for my next blog.

First of all, lemme say, Lymle really wasnt that bad. She totally grew on me while ppl like Vanille from FF13 made me want to decapitate someone.

I too feel that people who do not like JRPGs or who do not know the first thing about them should NOT be writing reviews. They bring up the most mundane points as being negatives without actually realising the culture and history of JRPGs in general. They have their own unique flavour and as such do not appeal to everyone's tastes.

ChatterboxZombie: I think FF13 is the most far away from a traditional JRPG you can get. Overdone cinematics are usually a SquareEnix thing, hardly something that JRPGs themselves are known for. While FF had its roots in the JRPG genre, they've strayed quite far from that, in my opinion, and I'll probably get slammed for that.

All in all, i totally enjoyed reading this blog and am looking forward to more. 5 stars dood!
I'd agree FF has been aiming to be more western in it's look. A turning point could be in FFX, when the world map was suddenly not there. What's a JRPG without running around a massive map looking for a new village?
 
 
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Silvon
On Thursday 28 Apr 2011 6:07 PM Posted by Silvon NZGamer.com VIP
28 April 2011, 12:23 PM Reply to bahamut_zero
Gah...there goes my idea for my next blog.

First of all, lemme say, Lymle really wasnt that bad. She totally grew on me while ppl like Vanille from FF13 made me want to decapitate someone.

I too feel that people who do not like JRPGs or who do not know the first thing about them should NOT be writing reviews. They bring up the most mundane points as being negatives without actually realising the culture and history of JRPGs in general. They have their own unique flavour and as such do not appeal to everyone's tastes.

ChatterboxZombie: I think FF13 is the most far away from a traditional JRPG you can get. Overdone cinematics are usually a SquareEnix thing, hardly something that JRPGs themselves are known for. While FF had its roots in the JRPG genre, they've strayed quite far from that, in my opinion, and I'll probably get slammed for that.

All in all, i totally enjoyed reading this blog and am looking forward to more. 5 stars dood!
Haha glad to see I'm not the only one wanting to write about this!

I pretty much agree on the points you mentioned on FFXIII. While I don't think the game itself is terrible, I also think that as far as JRPGs are concerned, S04 was a much better game.

Noksie, I still have Azure Dreams in my PS1 collection, I totally know what you mean. When I first played it I didn't understand the culture so much so never finished it, when I went back to it years later I really enjoyed the game for what it is.

Also Shining Force 2 is such a great game, I really need to go play that again sometime. Good to get some really serious and further thought provoking feedback from you guys.
 
 
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Chris Redfield
On Friday 29 Apr 2011 11:04 AM Posted by Chris Redfield NZGamer.com VIP
I was wanting a JRPG for my PS3 but kept reading reviews about them where they were getting badmouthed and sh*t. Guess I should just ignore reviews and buy some of the ones people have been hyping. Gotta get SO3 at some point. Always so damn expensive though iirc.


But yeah f**k mainstream reviews of JRPGs. I guess.
 
 
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leopardsqueezy
On Friday 29 Apr 2011 1:27 PM Posted by leopardsqueezy NZGamer.com VIP
I know what you are trying to say, but our opinions affect everything we do and every thought we have, subconsciously or otherwise. Even the most rational, thoughtful enlightened people on Earth have biases and opinions. It's really not as simple as just deciding you are not going to use it this afternoon. Some of the most experienced and mature game journalists whose names I've seen around in print and cyberspace for donkey's years admit they have their own biases towards genres or styles. How successful are they in putting it aside? Hard to say.

Based on some of the other comments, it is also quite apparent that it works the other way too - that some people are just so smitten with Japanese culture, anime, voice acting, etc (and there's nothing wrong with that at all) that when presented with a game in this art style they can't "keep it in their pants", so to speak. Aka, a bit of anime fanboy/girl-ism slips in, and a tatty piece of work gets the tick of approval.

I honestly have to question the objectivity of anyone who considers, just as an example again, Lymle (or similar) a good, or even acceptable, piece of design. If we remove "personal preferences", to the extent that is possible, and analyse the production of this character, she is unremarkable, derivative/cliched, and armed with suicidally bad script and voice acting - this actually applies to that particular game as a whole, but this character is a stand-out.
 
 
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Silvon
On Friday 29 Apr 2011 2:59 PM Posted by Silvon NZGamer.com VIP
29 April 2011, 01:27 PM Reply to leopardsqueezy
I know what you are trying to say, but our opinions affect everything we do and every thought we have, subconsciously or otherwise. Even the most rational, thoughtful enlightened people on Earth have biases and opinions. It's really not as simple as just deciding you are not going to use it this afternoon. Some of the most experienced and mature game journalists whose names I've seen around in print and cyberspace for donkey's years admit they have their own biases towards genres or styles. How successful are they in putting it aside? Hard to say.

Based on some of the other comments, it is also quite apparent that it works the other way too - that some people are just so smitten with Japanese culture, anime, voice acting, etc (and there's nothing wrong with that at all) that when presented with a game in this art style they can't "keep it in their pants", so to speak. Aka, a bit of anime fanboy/girl-ism slips in, and a tatty piece of work gets the tick of approval.

I honestly have to question the objectivity of anyone who considers, just as an example again, Lymle (or similar) a good, or even acceptable, piece of design. If we remove "personal preferences", to the extent that is possible, and analyse the production of this character, she is unremarkable, derivative/cliched, and armed with suicidally bad script and voice acting - this actually applies to that particular game as a whole, but this character is a stand-out.
Really to me a review is about balance, I don't want to be told why the reviewer liked or disliked the game, I want to be told why I should (or may) like the game, or what features the reviewer thought were bad and why I might see them as bad.

I think some JRPGs are terrible, I think some are amazing, that's part objectivity and part personal preference. Whether you like, or are annoyed by a character or not really is almost purely personal preference, the same as who your friends are, so I can understand you not liking Lymle.

We seem to look at reviews in general in a slightly different way. I can totally understand where you're coming from and while I don't agree with your view in its entirety I can conceed with no hesitation the need for opinions and objectivity in balance. My real point is that too often in reviews (heavily focused here on JRPGs though) there's a lack of objectivity and too much opinion.

I'd be against pure objectivity and no opinion as well by the way, I've just yet to encounter that.

Oh and Munkah, totally agree with the Hyperdimesnion Neptunia comment. I really didn't see eye to eye with that review at all.
 
 
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Wozza
On Friday 29 Apr 2011 8:05 PM Posted by Wozza NZGamer.com VIP
Liked the blog, and many of the comments.

For me the most attractive feature in any game, apart from maybe a sim, is imagination. I love games that immerse you in a world that is unique and you really don’t know whats going to come next. Exploring new parts of the map and laughing in joy at whats around the corner is the best feeling ever, or sometimes laughing at the sheer epicness or complexity of your next task.

Ganbare Geoman on Nintendo 64 for me was simply a joy to play through. As mentioned the graphics were not technically great at the time, but the style... Oh the style! I loved how quirky the world was, how wonky the dialogue was and how strange the character design was to me. The game was dripping in culture and frequently surprised me.

I guess I have a weakness for Jap style games as they often feature stylistic choices and don’t try to mimmick reality quite so much. Okami, Zelda Wind Waker and ICO immediately come to mind when I think of gameworlds which completely immersed me. That said, every now and again something like FallOut 3 comes along and hits the spot perfectly.

I have to admit though, I cannot play RPG after RPG after RPG, I have to break it up a bit and may only get stuck into a good RPG once or twice a year, but perhaps that’s also what makes them so special to me.

P.S. Lymle is THAT bad!
 
 
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ThomasB
On Saturday 30 Apr 2011 11:23 AM Posted by ThomasB
29 April 2011, 02:59 PM Reply to Silvon
Really to me a review is about balance, I don't want to be told why the reviewer liked or disliked the game, I want to be told why I should (or may) like the game, or what features the reviewer thought were bad and why I might see them as bad.

I think some JRPGs are terrible, I think some are amazing, that's part objectivity and part personal preference. Whether you like, or are annoyed by a character or not really is almost purely personal preference, the same as who your friends are, so I can understand you not liking Lymle.

We seem to look at reviews in general in a slightly different way. I can totally understand where you're coming from and while I don't agree with your view in its entirety I can conceed with no hesitation the need for opinions and objectivity in balance. My real point is that too often in reviews (heavily focused here on JRPGs though) there's a lack of objectivity and too much opinion.

I'd be against pure objectivity and no opinion as well by the way, I've just yet to encounter that.

Oh and Munkah, totally agree with the Hyperdimesnion Neptunia comment. I really didn't see eye to eye with that review at all.
you write alot.



not for you to read if under 18 it is wic.
 
 
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ThomasB
On Saturday 30 Apr 2011 11:25 AM Posted by ThomasB
30 April 2011, 11:23 AM Reply to ThomasB
you write alot.



not for you to read if under 18 it is wic.
you can be read if you are under 18
 
 
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fauzman
On Sunday 1 May 2011 11:02 AM Posted by fauzman NZGamer.com VIP
I think its basically the refusal of jrpg makers to move with the times. Having shoddy graphics and average stories were ok in the snes/ps1/ps2 days but now people are looking for quality in their games. Majority of jrpgs today have cutscenes consisting of heads talking and stories that dont have any depth and lazy developers who only try to get 100k sales knowing they have a crap product.
 
 
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bahamut_zero
On Sunday 1 May 2011 5:10 PM Posted by bahamut_zero NZGamer.com VIP
1 May 2011, 11:02 AM Reply to fauzman
I think its basically the refusal of jrpg makers to move with the times. Having shoddy graphics and average stories were ok in the snes/ps1/ps2 days but now people are looking for quality in their games. Majority of jrpgs today have cutscenes consisting of heads talking and stories that dont have any depth and lazy developers who only try to get 100k sales knowing they have a crap product.
Sigh..you didnt actually read the blog I take it. JRPG's aren't for everyone and if you don't like it just don't play it. Not everyone thinks that superior graphics are the most important aspects of a great game. If that were the case, the DS would not be as successful as it is now. THe graphics aren't that great on it but there are still a lot of fantastic games. Oh well, nm. I totally know where you're coming from Silvon. Hang in there!
 
 
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Nokise
On Sunday 1 May 2011 8:18 PM Posted by Nokise
1 May 2011, 11:02 AM Reply to fauzman
I think its basically the refusal of jrpg makers to move with the times. Having shoddy graphics and average stories were ok in the snes/ps1/ps2 days but now people are looking for quality in their games. Majority of jrpgs today have cutscenes consisting of heads talking and stories that dont have any depth and lazy developers who only try to get 100k sales knowing they have a crap product.
People were looking for quality in their games back in the day too.

Actually the graphics of many JRPG's on PS1 and SNES were considered some of the best on the consoles. If you're having trouble remembering go look them up online. FF titles are obvious (9 being the weakest of the bunch), but consider Grandia, Star Ocean, Shining Force, Chrono Trigger, Suikoden, and - for pure story telling action RPG - Vagrant Story. Weak stories? Believe me, Areis dying was the "you are Revan" of it's generation.

Of course there were some epic duds too, but would you agree that for every Balders Gate, there were a couple of Dark Messiahs?

Also these games were at a time when many western rpgs, especially on console just weren't firing. Western RPG's were predominantly considered the domain of PC's - and many were trying to recapture the magic of old Sierra games, without moving forward - which perhaps is the point you were trying to get across? Arena and Baldurs Gate were at the forefront of a change in style, but man they play slow now.

Essentially, game developers like Level 7, Square Enix, and Konami often target the Japanese / Asia market first. Similarly, games from the likes of Bethesda, Bioware, Lionhead etc are by western companies for predominantly western buyers first.

None of this explains what JRPG you were playing whose cutscenes were just talking heads (?)
 
 
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Silvon
On Monday 2 May 2011 9:34 PM Posted by Silvon NZGamer.com VIP
1 May 2011, 08:18 PM Reply to Nokise
People were looking for quality in their games back in the day too.

Actually the graphics of many JRPG's on PS1 and SNES were considered some of the best on the consoles. If you're having trouble remembering go look them up online. FF titles are obvious (9 being the weakest of the bunch), but consider Grandia, Star Ocean, Shining Force, Chrono Trigger, Suikoden, and - for pure story telling action RPG - Vagrant Story. Weak stories? Believe me, Areis dying was the "you are Revan" of it's generation.

Of course there were some epic duds too, but would you agree that for every Balders Gate, there were a couple of Dark Messiahs?

Also these games were at a time when many western rpgs, especially on console just weren't firing. Western RPG's were predominantly considered the domain of PC's - and many were trying to recapture the magic of old Sierra games, without moving forward - which perhaps is the point you were trying to get across? Arena and Baldurs Gate were at the forefront of a change in style, but man they play slow now.

Essentially, game developers like Level 7, Square Enix, and Konami often target the Japanese / Asia market first. Similarly, games from the likes of Bethesda, Bioware, Lionhead etc are by western companies for predominantly western buyers first.

None of this explains what JRPG you were playing whose cutscenes were just talking heads (?)
I really agree with what you've written here. Some JRPGs back in the day were terrible and some were great, the same is true now.

There are always going to be awful games in any genre, and it's completely fair for them to be torn to shreds in reviews. It also isn't much of a review if you rip apart a good game because you don't like the genre.

I'd just like to add that although some might say it's a bit of a stretch to say that FFXIII is a JRPG, it really did have excellent graphics. Lymle aside the graphics in Star Ocean 4 weren't shoddy either and there was nothing wrong with the graphics in White Knight Chronicles.

A lot of the graphics comes down to style, they're often not done to look completely realistic like say, Uncharted 2. Whether someone likes the style of the graphics in a JRPG or not, well that's deifnitely personal preference.
 
 
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Davesto_Brolinga
On Tuesday 3 May 2011 9:22 AM Posted by Davesto_Brolinga NZGamer.com VIP
I am really glad that you wrote this. This is exactly my sentiments nowadays when I read anything related to JRPG. I find it offending that certain "reviewers" just judge JRPGs according to western context without even trying to understand where they came from. I hate it whenever something is not bowing to the western RPG or FPS formula, they think they are crap. Well written mate.
 
 
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The Host of Chaos
On Wednesday 4 May 2011 9:31 PM Posted by The Host of Chaos NZGamer.com VIP
Well done on one of the best blogs on NZGamer in a long time. I totally get what you're saying and agree with you. A lot of those reviews would be the equivalent of me reviewing something like Madden that I have no knowledge of or interest in and just writing it off as crap because I'm clueless.
 
 
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Silvon
On Friday 6 May 2011 11:47 AM Posted by Silvon NZGamer.com VIP
4 May 2011, 09:31 PM Reply to The Host of Chaos
Well done on one of the best blogs on NZGamer in a long time. I totally get what you're saying and agree with you. A lot of those reviews would be the equivalent of me reviewing something like Madden that I have no knowledge of or interest in and just writing it off as crap because I'm clueless.
Cheers. I'm just glad people found it an enjoyable read and it generated a bit of discussion.
 
 
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Nokise
On Sunday 8 May 2011 12:00 PM Posted by Nokise
In the spirit of having an "Oh No" moment with a bunch of anime fans - look, oh ye mortals, and tremble....

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni10376544/
 
 
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Silvon
On Sunday 8 May 2011 7:52 PM Posted by Silvon NZGamer.com VIP
8 May 2011, 12:00 PM Reply to Nokise
In the spirit of having an "Oh No" moment with a bunch of anime fans - look, oh ye mortals, and tremble....

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni10376544/
I'd like to believe that would turn out great but I'm really not holding out much hope. Infact I'm almost regretting reading it.
 
 
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mandingo
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 2:11 PM Posted by mandingo
Well I've noticed that having average graphics (FF7) is not necessarily a bad thing, anything you see visually will never be more interesting then what your imagination can think of.
 
 
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mattyj1974
On Friday 27 May 2011 12:42 PM Posted by mattyj1974
If you are not Japanese you should not even bother trying to understand these games. They are more complex than a womans mind!
 
 
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