Rumour: Next Xbox Will Not Play Used Games


By: Alan Bell
Published: Thursday 26 Jan 2012 11:25 AM
 

According to Kotaku, who are quoting industry insider sources, Microsoft are set to shake things up a bit with the next iteration of the Xbox.

While there are a bunch of interesting things kicking around about the next-generation Microsoft console, one particular rumour has got our complete attention: that the next-gen Xbox won't play secondhand games.

The market for secondhand games has long be subject to the ire of videogame publishers, who have made claims like "secondhand sales are effectively piracy" and generally take issue with the fact that second (and third, fourth - etc) sales of games don't result in them earning a cut of the proceeds.

Could Microsoft be set to change the shape of videogames forever by eliminating secondhand sales from the equation?

Other hot rumours going around:

• The Kinect 2 will debut with the next Xbox

• The next Xbox will be six to eight times more powerful than the Xbox 360

• It will be in stores in time for Christmas 2013

• The GPU will be based on the Radeon 6000 series, similar to that found in the HD 6670

Interestingly, the performance rumours (which originate from IGN) also say that this "six times the power" will equate to 20% more power than the Wii U. If true, that seems to suggest that the Wii U is a lot more powerful than previously thought (it was originally thought to be around the same power as a current Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3).

Obviously, it's all just rumour and conjecture; if the past has taught us anything, it's that consoles rarely match rumours that spring up around them. Speculation is always fun, though - what do you think will happen?

Source: IGN, Kotaku



 

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cortez72
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 12:10 PM Posted by cortez72 NZGamer.com VIP
Now, someone will have to correct my thinking here:

Greater graphical power results in more detail, depth of field, PPS etc.

So, does that in turn mean that with more power, comes more work for developers? Someone has to be responsible for creating the detail?

So unless release dates are longer (which they won't be, because that means less money in/out), the production teams will have to get bigger to accomodate this. As such, the price of the titles will rise, yeah?
 
 
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lentron
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 12:28 PM Posted by lentron
26 January 2012, 12:10 PM Reply to cortez72
Now, someone will have to correct my thinking here:

Greater graphical power results in more detail, depth of field, PPS etc.

So, does that in turn mean that with more power, comes more work for developers? Someone has to be responsible for creating the detail?

So unless release dates are longer (which they won't be, because that means less money in/out), the production teams will have to get bigger to accomodate this. As such, the price of the titles will rise, yeah?
I'd guess that they won't increase the prices if possible. Raising the average price point would likely result in less sales as the customer base isn't going to increase just because the games look better.
You could always look at the difference in the average price of a game between ps1 and ps2 when the ps2 was released, or between the xbox and xbox360 (taking inflation in account).

If the prices do go up, I guess we'll just have to buy more 2nd hand games :D
 
 
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phantom
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 12:34 PM Posted by phantom NZGamer.com VIP
26 January 2012, 12:10 PM Reply to cortez72
Now, someone will have to correct my thinking here:

Greater graphical power results in more detail, depth of field, PPS etc.

So, does that in turn mean that with more power, comes more work for developers? Someone has to be responsible for creating the detail?

So unless release dates are longer (which they won't be, because that means less money in/out), the production teams will have to get bigger to accomodate this. As such, the price of the titles will rise, yeah?
Yes and no; today, developers will often create more detail than will ship in the final product (to capture their vision) which is then compressed down, baked into textures, down-ressed and so on to ensure that it will run at the target framerate (etc).

In theory, in some situations (like the above), more power will allow developers to perform less of this down-ressing stage, and ensure that more of their vision translates across into the actual game assets.

But in general, with more power (and constantly raising expectations), costs to develop AAA games will increase with a more powerful platform. Another reason is the skill-up time it takes to learn the platform, and the cost of redeveloping in-house tools so that their pipelines can take advantage of the power / new features on offer.

I think we're definitely heading towards a large gulf between AAA titles and everything else as a result of the budgets involved - much like you see in cinema today.
 
 
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mandingo
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 1:26 PM Posted by mandingo
All games becoming Downloadable? Goodbye internet cap.
 
 
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p1nkm15t
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 2:25 PM Posted by p1nkm15t
So wait. Does "borrowed from a mate" count as a used game?
Does this affect single/campaign play, or just Multiplayer games?
Going by the wording, I would assume they mean *any* used game.
 
 
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ChatterboxZombie
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 4:56 PM Posted by ChatterboxZombie NZGamer.com VIP
Pretty sure i heard this exact same thing about the PS3 before it came out.
 
 
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phantom
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 5:06 PM Posted by phantom NZGamer.com VIP
26 January 2012, 04:56 PM Reply to ChatterboxZombie
Pretty sure i heard this exact same thing about the PS3 before it came out.
You did indeed - the same rumour was circulating for the PS3 in 2005, based on speculation that came from some patents Sony filed for tech that would allow disks to contain unique serial numbers. Nothing came of that, but... hard to say what will happen here.
 
 
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KatalystaKaos
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 5:52 PM Posted by KatalystaKaos NZGamer.com VIP
I'm sure these rumours are often started by either the company's involved, competitors, or Market Research Co.'s acting on their behalf to get a feel for market reaction. Game sites the world over are a buzz with this particular rumour and the consensus in regards to the "Next Xbox Will Not Play Used Games" rumour is anger & disgust.

If the tech is included to do this, a simple answer would be to require the 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand owner to purchase an unlock key online. Similar to what's required at present with a number of current gen titles to unlock multi-player, that way surely everyone wins including the planets resources?

I think developers will be shooting themselves in the foot if they ever got their way with no 2nd hand sales, I'd love to see the numbers/percentages for buyers who could not afford a new game without trading or selling an older unused game.
 
 
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brettz0r
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 10:39 PM Posted by brettz0r NZGamer.com VIP
26 January 2012, 05:52 PM Reply to KatalystaKaos
I'm sure these rumours are often started by either the company's involved, competitors, or Market Research Co.'s acting on their behalf to get a feel for market reaction. Game sites the world over are a buzz with this particular rumour and the consensus in regards to the "Next Xbox Will Not Play Used Games" rumour is anger & disgust.

If the tech is included to do this, a simple answer would be to require the 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand owner to purchase an unlock key online. Similar to what's required at present with a number of current gen titles to unlock multi-player, that way surely everyone wins including the planets resources?

I think developers will be shooting themselves in the foot if they ever got their way with no 2nd hand sales, I'd love to see the numbers/percentages for buyers who could not afford a new game without trading or selling an older unused game.
Purchasing a key to run the game would be acceptable but ridiculous at the same time. Id accept it more if there was a 6month cap on this: If I bought a 5 year old 2nd hand game and still had to pay more money to actually play it? Thats pretty bad

People would never hire a game. ever.

Say your new Xbox got stolen, RRoD or just failed in general... you then have to pay to play your games that you purchased new.

I think it would be a bad move: a lot of people borrow, rent and buy 2nd hand games to test them out before buying them or future titles of that series.

Its not like these game producers / developers don't make enough money as it is.
 
 
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leopardsqueezy
On Friday 27 Jan 2012 10:48 AM Posted by leopardsqueezy
Piracy, used games, cpu power, dev costs - I believe for many 360 owners, the most important info for this new console are the specs concerning the solder and 50c rubber washers.... I'm certainly not buying a first/early production run console ever again.

Also, Microsoft, if it's not too much trouble, for this next console could you please make Support Hotline less sh*t? Ta.
 
 
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Syn-Ryn
On Friday 27 Jan 2012 11:12 AM Posted by Syn-Ryn NZGamer.com VIP
"similar to that found in the HD 6670"


:/
 
 
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