Yesterday, on his Radio Live talkback show, host and opinionated politician Michael Laws had the recently released Modern Warfare 2 in his crosshairs.
In his opening editorial he talked about Modern Warfare 2 – more specifically, the scene in which players go undercover to infiltrate the terrorists and tear through a few dozen civilians. This scene caused a stir when it was leaked prior to release. Although it remained, it has to be noted the scene can be skipped by selecting the option at the start of the game, if that sort of thing offends you.
Listen to Michael Laws' opening editorial.
To follow up the talk, the latest Opinionation on the Radio Live website asks “Are they (video games) an entertainment or are they causing our children to grow up without understanding 'consequence'?”
Reader opinions were divided, some stating that games were “hard wiring kids to become cold killers that's harsh but true.” This proved to be a minority view on the site with 11 disagreements.
The most agreed upon opinion states: “Michael Laws actually said that violence caused by computer games was more serious than alcohol or cigarettes in the home. When someone pointed out that the game he was ranting about was R18. How can someone in his position have such a low understand of the effect of alcohol vs. computer games?”
If kids are growing up without an understanding of consequence it’s the parents that are failing to teach them through discipline. If a kid misbehaves they should show them that there are always consequences - immediate ones that adversely affect them.
This isn’t the work of video games; it’s simply a coincidence that they happen to enjoy gaming.
What are your thoughts on this?
Update 16th November: We've added the audio of the opening editorial. Listen and leave your thoughts below!
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COMMENTS (55)
Meh, he's a detestable human being. Even being the raging conservative I am, I cannot support anything this man says.
For the record, this is what I posted on his site:
"Violent games are not for children. If children have them, look at the irresponsible parents.
That said, this question was obviously put forward by yet another person who has never played a video game past Pong. Although the narratives are hardly Hamlet, many are strong enough to stand on their own, and many also ask many significant questions of the player. For example, Valkyria Chronicles asks the question of whether someone who is on the other side of a conflict, someone who is part of a regime that is killing your fellow citizens, is inherently evil -- and should you, the player, leave him to die painful as he calls out for his mother or make his final hours as comfortable as possible. Given the nature of interactivity in these titles, it teaches the player a lot about not only the grey areas in life, but makes them examine their own moral fibre. That is something that no vicarious experience can hope to replicate.
Rather than asking leading and inflammatory questions, Michael, why not spend that time becoming familiar with the medium and understand exactly why these games are so popular?"
I expect it to get down-voted by his audience.
I am sure I heard the other day that there was a marked decrease in youth crime (in the States I think)at the same time that video games became main stream.
mind my spelling, grammar and idea's, had a few drinks already :oD
How hard would it be to go to jail or a youth detention and survey how many have played hardcore violent video games, and feel they wish to reenact such events or feel that due to gaming they werent aware of consequence... Its not hard.
Video games to blame? What about movies? Saw or Hostel anyone? Did u know Nickelodeon was classified as have 'more violence per minute' than any other channel? lol wtf i know. Blame Nickelodeon for poisoning the minds of the young with the 'hitting/stabbing/shotting is ok' lol
It's the same ol' winge... let's put the blame on everything and everyone except where it really lies. Over the last few decades, our society has found every conceivable way to not make people responsible for their actions and choices. It's either their upbringing, it's the drugs or booze, or it's violence on TV, or in the movies and video games, or it's guns. It's always some lame excuse why a person shouldn't be held responsible for their own actions.
Wanna know who's responsible for kids bein' out of control today? Their parents and the governments, that's who! There are a lot of parents out there who don't care about their kids, and don't offer any supervision at all. But then, those that want to are stifled by lame laws that punish them with fines and/or jail if they send their kid to his/her room!! Give me a break!!
When I was growing up, if you were under 18, your ass was in your house at night by 10 PM! If you weren't, you were hauled into the police station and your parents were called to come get you. The second time, you were placed under arrest and charged with juvenile delinquency. The third time, your partents were charged with failure to supervise and being unfit, and forced to appear in court to answer those charges. There is no good reason on God's green Earth for kids to be roaming the streets all hours of the night. It's their right? BULLSH*T! Children have rights, but that ain't one of 'em! They also don't have the right to call the police because they were sent to their room by their parents! You don't give a child that kind of power!
There are those who are so hung up about kids not being subjected to violence in video games, but would they take the same precautions to make sure children don't watch the nightly newscasts? All they will see are reports about violence, war, hatred, anger, bitterness, corruption, drugs, booze, religious fanaticism, famine, destruction, and death in a myriad of forms. But it's educational. HA!
Any violence portrayed in Modern Warfare 2, is nothing that isn't going on in the REAL world TODAY. Kids under 18 shouldn't be playing the game, and if they are, who is allowing them to?
The bottom line is this... if anyone plays out in real life what they experienced in a video game, then let me tell ya, folks, there were some extremely serious issues goin' on long before that game ever came along.
I was going to end this with an apropo bit of humor, but I'd probably have the AOS kicking down my door and taking my guns awa, so I'll refrain.
GAME ON!!
Like a lot of others here, I agree with some of what Michael Laws says and believes. This is one of those times that I don't.
It's the same ol' winge... let's put the blame on everything and everyone except where it really lies. Over the last few decades, our society has found every conceivable way to not make people responsible for their actions and choices. It's either their upbringing, it's the drugs or booze, or it's violence on TV, or in the movies and video games, or it's guns. It's always some lame excuse why a person shouldn't be held responsible for their own actions.
Wanna know who's responsible for kids bein' out of control today? Their parents and the governments, that's who! There are a lot of parents out there who don't care about their kids, and don't offer any supervision at all. But then, those that want to are stifled by lame laws that punish them with fines and/or jail if they send their kid to his/her room!! Give me a break!!
When I was growing up, if you were under 18, your ass was in your house at night by 10 PM! If you weren't, you were hauled into the police station and your parents were called to come get you. The second time, you were placed under arrest and charged with juvenile delinquency. The third time, your partents were charged with failure to supervise and being unfit, and forced to appear in court to answer those charges. There is no good reason on God's green Earth for kids to be roaming the streets all hours of the night. It's their right? BULLSH*T! Children have rights, but that ain't one of 'em! They also don't have the right to call the police because they were sent to their room by their parents! You don't give a child that kind of power!
There are those who are so hung up about kids not being subjected to violence in video games, but would they take the same precautions to make sure children don't watch the nightly newscasts? All they will see are reports about violence, war, hatred, anger, bitterness, corruption, drugs, booze, religious fanaticism, famine, destruction, and death in a myriad of forms. But it's educational. HA!
Any violence portrayed in Modern Warfare 2, is nothing that isn't going on in the REAL world TODAY. Kids under 18 shouldn't be playing the game, and if they are, who is allowing them to?
The bottom line is this... if anyone plays out in real life what they experienced in a video game, then let me tell ya, folks, there were some extremely serious issues goin' on long before that game ever came along.
I was going to end this with an apropo bit of humor, but I'd probably have the AOS kicking down my door and taking my guns awa, so I'll refrain.
GAME ON!!
Or Women or handicapped people or black people or Jews or something
If any gaming children grow up without realising that every action has a consequence, that is the fault of their parents, who probably buy them R18 games that they arent meant to have, and then leaving them to play it while they go off and do something else.
He is probably only ranting on about MW2 becuase it's one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) games of 2009, maybe he needs some publicity.
He clearly doesnt understand video gaming at all. And how good games are much better forms of entertainment then a book or a movie. They provide the narrative of a novel, the cinematics of a movie, interactivity, moral choices etc etc.
And whatever any surveys or studies show about the "do violent video games make serial killers" debate, it all comes down to the player. If they are schizophrenic and also tend to get drawn into the game too much and are depressed, then yea they might make a turn for the worst.
However if they are just a regular person who has a regular life and common sense, then its just entertainment. NOT a f***ing murder simulator.
Seriously. its like us saying that if aliens exist, they all have flying saucer ships and laser guns. We dont understand them therefore we should not pretend to undersatnd them and judge them. The same goes for all these old politicians that dont understand video games.
Well if you're going to kill people in videogames, it might aswell be children
Or Women or handicapped people or black people or Jews or something
He is just peeved that it costs so much.
The ratings system should ween the kids out, Unfortunately it doesn't.
I'm with Donutta, violent games are not for children.
amirite!
Geez imagine if the name of the game had a 'H' in it.
amirite!
Like so many things in the world, there are very few hard and fast rules. By Michael Laws's logic, Christianity is a breeding program for rapists, because a few priests and bishops sodomise the odd altar boy. It's just not an argument that really holds up in any way.
I find this quote a little offensing. A gamer has as much chance of commiting "mass murder" as some one that watchs movies or watches T.V.
Shame on u Mr. Laws
"Gamers a very unusual group of people"
"If mass murder was to be commited in this country it would be commited by a gamer"
Anyways... another issue isnt it illegal to have your own show and be a politician? well for TV it differently is why is radio allowed?
On a side note he likes the gay porn ;) that's why he isnt b*tching about it lol
To be fair, 3 News is taking the angle that Michael Laws is a wanker. :D
What a wanker.
"Gamers a very unusual group of people"
"If mass murder was to be commited in this country it would be commited by a gamer"
Its a reflection a parenting skills without a doubt, furthermore, if you are a responsible parent, you won't buy your child R18 material. Any under 18-ner's on NZgamer had a parent rock up to them with booze and porn lately?
The Anti-smacking bill is more distructive than a video game cut scene. I grew up with the wooden spoon as punishment, and I have never stolen/assaulted/cheated anyone in my life.
The young people I know who have committed violent crimes didn't have video games because their parents couldn't afford them/spent their money on alcohol.
Its a reflection a parenting skills without a doubt, furthermore, if you are a responsible parent, you won't buy your child R18 material. Any under 18-ner's on NZgamer had a parent rock up to them with booze and porn lately?
The Anti-smacking bill is more distructive than a video game cut scene. I grew up with the wooden spoon as punishment, and I have never stolen/assaulted/cheated anyone in my life.
its up to the parents in install a sense of right or wrong in their kids, and without punishment, how is the kid supposed to know.
Sometimes a spoon or belt is a just cause.
Thats the way i grew up, and i believe i'm better for it.
Laws needs to pull his head out his a**,
and seriously think before he spouts out.
I generally like the guy, cos he is outspoken, but this is just laughable.
When it comes to homicidal gamers, the term "only in america" should be always present.
Man I wish my cellphone would get AM reception so I could have listened to Radio Sport instead, lol..
And now they say playing games will turn me into a murderer! Well i cant have that now.
Have decided to quit both...
*gets snakes'n'ladders boardgame from closet*
pfft... the Idiot decided he would rain on the parade of the football WC qualifier win yesterday.
Man I wish my cellphone would get AM reception so I could have listened to Radio Sport instead, lol..
What a complete c**t. I'm usually loath to use that word, but my God does he personify it.
pfft... the Idiot decided he would rain on the parade of the football WC qualifier win yesterday.
Man I wish my cellphone would get AM reception so I could have listened to Radio Sport instead, lol..
































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