NCEA = Not Acheive?
Published Monday 17 Nov 2008 10:44pm |
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Tags: Education, NCEA, Dumbening
So I saw in the paper the other day they are planning to, or at least thinking of, taking out Shakespeare papers from the school curriculum. This along with the proposition of decreasing the number of points needed to pass NCEA level 1 from 80 to 60, just makes me lose hope in the NZ education system.
It's just "too hard" apparently.
As a nation, we're hailed as intelligent, innovative and hardworking.
I'm not sure if that's how it really is.
I guess I'm lucky that in my group of friends most have passed NCEA level 3 and are either studying at Uni or and are working. But I can imagine there are a large sum of people without NCEA level 2 qualifications and plans for the future, except for maybe working at McDs or New Worlds or being a drain on our society.
The future for our futures?
But whom do we blame? When the going gets tough, do the tough loosen their belts and let everything slide?
Now, interestingly, compared with the Finnish who have a consistently high student performance and are ranked first in the OECD, we're placed seventh best, behind Japan and in front of Australia (YUS!)
So then, do we need push our students harder? Make the consequences of failing direr? Or keep going as we are, making it easier to pass?
Do we want to let our future go through a process of dumbening?
COMMENTS (50)
Yeah, the students need to pushed a bit more. I was a lazy ass at school but even then I still passed fine.
well 2bh i think its the teachers! i had an english teacher this year who couldnt spell.... a maths teacher u couldnt understand and 1 teacher in the school born in NZ (apart from management)
But hey! nationals gona giv 1mil more to pvt schools like St cuths they can lift our rating lol 'yay' i can feel no child left behind... hahha
maybe we need guns?? like the finnish?? then we can fix the teachers
Posted by Srassy on 19 November 2008, 09:12AM Yeah, the students need to pushed a bit more. I was a lazy ass at school but even then I still passed fine.
so tru!! already passed NCEA lvl 3 twice this year and just in the mid of externals no study nothing not bragging but hey we dont get pushed
But hey! nationals gona giv 1mil more to pvt schools like St cuths they can lift our rating lol 'yay' i can feel no child left behind... hahha
maybe we need guns?? like the finnish?? then we can fix the teachers
Posted by Srassy on 19 November 2008, 09:12AM Yeah, the students need to pushed a bit more. I was a lazy ass at school but even then I still passed fine.
so tru!! already passed NCEA lvl 3 twice this year and just in the mid of externals no study nothing not bragging but hey we dont get pushed
What take out Shakespeare? I hated it but it's an essential part of the English language!
19 November 2008, 10:15 AM
Reply to alienhominid
What take out Shakespeare? I hated it but it's an essential part of the English language!
Sage.
What take out Shakespeare? I hated it but it's an essential part of the English language!
Huh?
I don't see why....
I already passed thanks to all my internals...
I already passed thanks to all my internals...
yeah heaps of people I know have already passed with internals. too bad most of mine are externals.
19 November 2008, 11:36 AM
Reply to alienhominid
yeah heaps of people I know have already passed with internals. too bad most of mine are externals.
i think thats a big problem too. Ncea lv1 allows you to pass on pretty much internals alone (Depending on your classes of course) but then lv2 requires more external credits but i dnt think many kids realise this and flunk out because of there exams.. its a shame because making ncea easier would not help, it needs to remain hard so that it challenges people and keeps them going... because lv3 is a breeze! :P
yeah heaps of people I know have already passed with internals. too bad most of mine are externals.
Just got back from Lvl 2 english.
It finishes in about 40 mins..
Thank god the questions seemed to be custom-made to fit Macbeth and A Beautiful Mind.
It finishes in about 40 mins..
Thank god the questions seemed to be custom-made to fit Macbeth and A Beautiful Mind.
Wow how many ppl here are doing NCEA externals this year here? Anyway, I'm doing NCEA lvl 1 this year and I don't see the reason that I even need to go to externals as I already have 80 lvl 1 creds. Also, my careers teacher is always telling us that we got 20 free lvl 2 credits just for passing lvl 1. Wtf?
NCEA is a complete and utter failure, why change a working system like Bursary.
19 November 2008, 11:47 AM
Reply to Koopa18
Just got back from Lvl 2 english.
It finishes in about 40 mins..
Thank god the questions seemed to be custom-made to fit Macbeth and A Beautiful Mind.
I hated the level 2 English questions this year argh so annoying
Just got back from Lvl 2 english.
It finishes in about 40 mins..
Thank god the questions seemed to be custom-made to fit Macbeth and A Beautiful Mind.
The level 2 english for short text was so frickin hard cos my two texts had nothing in common.
NCEA lvl 1 was so easy!
I got 161 credits, so I had enough credits for two people to pass... I didn't fail any papers, and no I'm not trying to brag, because i believe that anyone can easily pass NCEA lvl 1 as it is. It should be made harder NOT easier!
I got 161 credits, so I had enough credits for two people to pass... I didn't fail any papers, and no I'm not trying to brag, because i believe that anyone can easily pass NCEA lvl 1 as it is. It should be made harder NOT easier!
:p I'm a year ten here studying for year 11 Science, 'cos I'm that good! It seems a bit of a challange here, but maybe that's because I'm taking it a year early :P
Do we want to let our future go through a process of dumbening?
Think they do, so big cooperate beings are able to lie even easierly...
Think they do, so big cooperate beings are able to lie even easierly...
19 November 2008, 01:42 PM
Reply to Hayvin
The level 2 english for short text was so frickin hard cos my two texts had nothing in common.
i found the extended text to be the hard questions.
The level 2 english for short text was so frickin hard cos my two texts had nothing in common.
19 November 2008, 01:42 PM
Reply to Hayvin
The level 2 english for short text was so frickin hard cos my two texts had nothing in common.
did u pass it
The level 2 english for short text was so frickin hard cos my two texts had nothing in common.
I found lvl 1 a breeze (174 credits-ish). Lvl 2-bit harder. ive only got 3 externals at lvl 3, and i dont get what so difficult bout ncea! I havnt really given a stuff bout school this year but im still on track to passing it.
My brother failed everything in bursary. He turned 21 and got into a conjoint into University of Auckland. There's your problem.
19 November 2008, 09:12 AM
Reply to Srassy
Yeah, the students need to pushed a bit more. I was a lazy ass at school but even then I still passed fine.
Me too!!
Yeah, the students need to pushed a bit more. I was a lazy ass at school but even then I still passed fine.
Wow Im suprised at all the secondary school students here.
Good luck to you all!!!
Good luck to you all!!!
Yea, I don't study but yet I still pass with flying colours.
19 November 2008, 11:47 AM
Reply to Koopa18
Just got back from Lvl 2 english.
It finishes in about 40 mins..
Thank god the questions seemed to be custom-made to fit Macbeth and A Beautiful Mind.
King Lear for the win. lol or should I say "LAWL" like that other guy?
Just got back from Lvl 2 english.
It finishes in about 40 mins..
Thank god the questions seemed to be custom-made to fit Macbeth and A Beautiful Mind.
I'm a lazy student, but when the times get tough i put my nose to the grindstone and work at it. It's those people who have no motivation etc. (i know loads of people). This is my first year of NCEA, but i'm in NCEA lv.2 and i'm sitting at 75 credits without NCEA lv.1 or External credits (if i passed more drama internals i'd be over 80). Oh and the Level2 English questions were a b*tch for me! But then I dislike english...
NCEA needs restructuring its not hard at all to pass. But I find the hard questions are a bit easy. they just got to make students work a bit more.
hey hey all u third formers NCEA lvl 1's a piece of crap easy as to pass no doubt but as u get to lvl 3 its fukn hard cause teachers dnt knw half the sh*t, and im not an idiot or anythn do eco,geo,eng,calc scholarships so ther!!! however i did drop eng,calc schols screw that.... u will feel the pain trust me !
Geo is not very difficult. Calculus and English are definitely a b*tch.
19 November 2008, 08:07 PM
Reply to tiamat1990
Geo is not very difficult. Calculus and English are definitely a b*tch.
Geo was the best subject! loved all the field trips lolGeo is not very difficult. Calculus and English are definitely a b*tch.
good luck for the rest of ya's doin your exams now! just finsihed my first uni ones so i know ur pain
The only secondary qualification worth anything is the IB Diploma.
Oh, and of course, an "A" Bursary from the good old days. Jaz = 421.
Im a very lazy student. If I had done more work, then I would have passed easier, rather than rushing the last couple of weeks. Stoopid me and stoopid logic.
Caveo-Meee, I have the phobia brushes you used on your profile :P
i think ncea lv 1 was pice of piss this year and who ever dosent pass dosent deserve to its that simple
NCEA qualifications are worth sh*t all overseas. If you were trying to get into a university in Europe, the UK or in the US then you are sh*t out of luck. If moving overseas is in your plans for the future for your education, I would heartily recommend the International Baccalaureate program as Jaz has already said. It is actually internationally recognized, hence the name.
20 November 2008, 09:37 AM
Reply to SmurfWorks
Caveo-Meee, I have the phobia brushes you used on your profile :P
As do I! ... Well obviously I do >_>Caveo-Meee, I have the phobia brushes you used on your profile :P
Yeah, Axeraider's brushes are so... WOW.
This blog is boring, i hope one of the admins delete it >.>
I think it's stupid them reducing the amount of credits you need to pass. Students should rise to meet the curriculum. The curriculum shouldn't stoop down to the students.
i'd say, too much stuff unnecessary i'd never use 70% of what i learn in my whole life lol
19 November 2008, 09:12 AM
Reply to Srassy
Yeah, the students need to pushed a bit more. I was a lazy ass at school but even then I still passed fine.
I was exactly the same. I spent most of my year 13 wagging in the common room, only took four subjects, and still got Level 3 and UE.Yeah, the students need to pushed a bit more. I was a lazy ass at school but even then I still passed fine.
Maybe partly coz I'm awesome though :P
20 November 2008, 04:09 PM
Reply to Ruptunex
I think it's stupid them reducing the amount of credits you need to pass. Students should rise to meet the curriculum. The curriculum shouldn't stoop down to the students.
100% agree with you, NCEA lvl 1 is already a walk in the park making it easier = spoon feeding.
I think it's stupid them reducing the amount of credits you need to pass. Students should rise to meet the curriculum. The curriculum shouldn't stoop down to the students.
his along with the proposition of decreasing the number of points needed to pass NCEA level 1 from 80 to 60, just makes me lose hope in the NZ education system.
This should never happen. 80 credits is soo easy in lvl 1. Just turn up and you'll pass. We need to change peoples attitudes, not the system
This should never happen. 80 credits is soo easy in lvl 1. Just turn up and you'll pass. We need to change peoples attitudes, not the system
19 November 2008, 06:47 PM
Reply to chinaman71
hey hey all u third formers NCEA lvl 1's a piece of crap easy as to pass no doubt but as u get to lvl 3 its fukn hard cause teachers dnt knw half the sh*t, and im not an idiot or anythn do eco,geo,eng,calc scholarships so ther!!! however i did drop eng,calc schols screw that.... u will feel the pain trust me !
Sounds like a bi##h session to me, College after all is just a place to develop your social skills. Wait for the real world that is a real bi#ch.
hey hey all u third formers NCEA lvl 1's a piece of crap easy as to pass no doubt but as u get to lvl 3 its fukn hard cause teachers dnt knw half the sh*t, and im not an idiot or anythn do eco,geo,eng,calc scholarships so ther!!! however i did drop eng,calc schols screw that.... u will feel the pain trust me !
well i think ncea is probably easy just can't be bothered studying
They have so many alternate courses for the retards of NCEA; they take you to a farm to nail a piece of wood for wire for 4 level 1 US credits. Far too easy as it is.
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